tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post8584687179687733329..comments2024-01-07T16:37:18.310+02:00Comments on StutterSense: Thiamine: a possible reason why it may help some stutterers Peter Louwhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-268826446893697602022-06-09T17:51:33.078+02:002022-06-09T17:51:33.078+02:00B complex contains only a minimal amount of thiami...B complex contains only a minimal amount of thiamine ... the whole point of the thiamine protocol is to significantly increase the amount of thiamine in your body. That's why Dr Schwartz recommends a thiamine-only protocol, but do add the magnesium as recommended - of course, after consulting with your doctor.Peter Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-75921499000383468782022-06-09T08:37:02.005+02:002022-06-09T08:37:02.005+02:00B complex has thiamine. Or do I have to buy only t...B complex has thiamine. Or do I have to buy only thiamine ???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-56427334647444167332021-11-28T22:46:14.574+02:002021-11-28T22:46:14.574+02:00Hi Julie - Not being a doctor, pharmacist or other...Hi Julie - Not being a doctor, pharmacist or other health professional I hesitate to reply to your question, but note the following points: 1) Only a minority of children and adults find this protocol helpful, so your son might unfortunately not be in that category. 2) Please consult your doctor or other relevant medical professional before trying this protocol for your son. 3) Anecdotally according to some parents who have responded in this blog, some have found that 100 mg of thiamin (the hydrochloride version) per day has been beneficial for their children (for adults, Dr Schwartz's recommended dosage is 300 mg per day). For magnesium, the RDA (recommended daily allowance) for a boy aged 7 is 130 mg per day (for adults it is 420). Note that the protocol also includes avoiding foods and drinks that deplete thiamin in the body such as raw fish (sushi etc), all teas and coffees, sugars and sugary drinks. Stop the protocol after a month if there are no positive results. As regards other ways to support him: Stuttering apparently is stress / anxiety related, with the anxiety often hidden (repressed), so try to reduce stress and anxiety as much as possible for him. Slower speech does help. In my book Coping With Stuttering I have a chapter on stuttering children, so you might want to read that; it's online for free at http://copingwithstuttering.blogspot.com/2010/02/stuttering-child.html I have since written a second book, Stuttering as a mindbody disorder (2020), in which I propose that stuttering is a stress-related "mind-body" disorder not unlike other stress disorders such as irritable bowel syndrome and many other digestive and other issues. Mind-body issues often arise when children or adults unconsciously repress their hidden fears, anger, sadness etc. instead of expressing them, so it may help to encourage your son to open up, instead of bottling it up, in any way possible, perhaps by expressive hobbies / activities such as painting, drawing, singing, karate etc. and, when old enough, writing in a diary etc. Mind-body disorders have the common feature that sufferers, when children, are usually Highly Sensitive Children. In fact, research has found that 4/5 of stuttering children are Highly Sensitive. This is an inborn trait. It's a great trait to have and most poets, artists etc. have it but it really helps to be aware of it. Such children are quite prone to stress and to pick up a mind-body issue. You might want to do the online Highly Sensitive Child test for your son here: https://hsperson.com/test/highly-sensitive-child-test/ For more information, google "Highly Sensitive Children" and look for guidelines on how to support them (in my second book you will also find a lot of information on this!) I hope this will help! It is a journey ... also consider joining my Facebook group "Stuttering as a mindbody disorder" though it's more aimed at adults. Best wishes! Peter Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-3506858687361019182021-11-28T14:38:52.791+02:002021-11-28T14:38:52.791+02:00Hi,
I am interested in supporting my 7 year old so...Hi,<br />I am interested in supporting my 7 year old son who stutters with the protocol. The article mentions that the dose is less for women and children but doesn’t specify the dose. Can you recommend a dose for his age. Also if there is anything else you recommend I do to support him I would greatly appreciate the guidance. Thank you very much. Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16813570053162400408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-67851150919330993052013-10-01T11:15:05.396+02:002013-10-01T11:15:05.396+02:00Dear Muhammad, I am not an expert, but if you are ...Dear Muhammad, I am not an expert, but if you are otherwise in good health and not experiencing side effects it should not be dangerous to take it for a month. In fact a number of people for whom it is helping have been taking thiamine for years. Excessive thiamine is excreted through the urine, and tests have shown that even large overdoses of thiamine HCL are not detrimental to health. The purpose of the two-week test period is to establish with some accuracy whether the thiamine has a positive effect on fluency, and to try and remove the possibility of a temporary but false placebo effect (self-suggestion). Your guess is as good as mine, but if you want to make absolutely sure that thiamine is either improving your fluency or not, maybe take it for another two weeks; however just adding five more days should also give you an indication of whether this is working for you. Whatever your decision, good luck and I hope that it works for you. Peter Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-47040801083360848192013-10-01T10:28:52.679+02:002013-10-01T10:28:52.679+02:00Hi Peter,
I forgot to take the dialy thaimine dos...Hi Peter,<br /><br />I forgot to take the dialy thaimine dose for 1 day, 2 days and one time at the morning but take the other 2 (luch and dinner) and I drink a pepsi for one time aloso :(<br /><br />Should I repeat for another 2 weeks or just add 5 more days to complete the 2 weeks test period?<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Is this dagner to take for a month?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-88323469728450220372013-09-28T14:44:05.918+02:002013-09-28T14:44:05.918+02:00Dear Anonymous, I am sorry that you feel that way....Dear Anonymous, I am sorry that you feel that way. Stuttering can really mess up one's social life and self-concept. But not being fluent does not reduce one's worth as a human being. I would suggest that you join one of the Facebook groups dealing with stuttering such as the Stuttering Arena, or the Stuttering Community. You will find links to them on the left side of this blog. In these groups you will find many people struggling with the same issues, but you will also get lots of support and hear of suggestions to work toward solutions in terms of both psychological mindset and improved fluency. Yes, your current stuttering is probably due to increased stress levels. If your current ways to manage stress are not effective, try other relaxation methods - in my book, for which you will also find a link to on the left side of this blog, I have a whole chapter on stress management. Regarding the Passive Airflow Technique - this is probably the best fluency technique around, but note that all such techniques are not miracle cures and demand regular work, effort and motivation. As far as I know, there are no airflow workshops, so you will have to "do-it-yourself". I would suggest that you purchase Dr Schwartz's airflow CD course - again I have a link to his course on my blog. It's self-therapy, but stuttering therapy is anyway self-therapy - a therapist can guide you, but the work will have to be done by the client himself. I would also suggest that you read Dr Schwartz's free online book on the airflow as well as mine. Lastly, check out my YouTube video on the airflow as well as the Airflow Facebook page. Links to these are all on this blog. At some stage I also intend to offer a Google Hangout airflow demonstration, so if interested please leave your name in the Airflow Facebook, and "like" it to get regular messages. All the best and do not give up - I hope to hear from you on Facebook. Peter Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-90486083717035941062013-09-28T02:49:13.027+02:002013-09-28T02:49:13.027+02:00Where can i try the passive air flow technique? Cu...Where can i try the passive air flow technique? Cuz all my life i had a mild stutter with little repetitions only that never got in the way of speaking,however recently like 3 years now i have been having real bad blocks.And now its noticeable big time.I don't know if stress caused this or what.Actually i know it was stress but now i calm myself down all the time but the bad stutter is still there.It's like i'm half the man i used to be.Like i'm a different guy who blocks now and has no friends anymore(i avoid people now for years now).I just feel like a worthless loser that spends time alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-85270144469953070922013-09-23T11:17:19.006+02:002013-09-23T11:17:19.006+02:00Dear Irina, 119 lb is pretty average, so I can see...Dear Irina, 119 lb is pretty average, so I can see no reason why the dosage should be different (though I am not a pharmacist). But do read the whole FAQ on thiamine elsewhere on this blog, so as to ensure that you maximise the chances that you will benefit (eg. no caffeine for the next two weeks, and the pro-thiamine diet). Best of luck and I hope that you are one of the lucky ones who benefit.Peter Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-2350436350039191082013-09-23T04:20:22.831+02:002013-09-23T04:20:22.831+02:00Hello! I am a female stutter, I am 22 years old, a...Hello! I am a female stutter, I am 22 years old, and English my second language. I know that test was with males native speakers, but I still want to try that. I hope for better results!will let you know in 2 weeks!<br />Just want to ask you, if my weight just 119 lb and I am female , are the doses still the same - 100 mg 3 times a day?<br />Thank you!Irinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-19673530320058671562013-09-18T22:59:08.466+02:002013-09-18T22:59:08.466+02:00Dear Muhammad, If I were you I would not draw any ...Dear Muhammad, If I were you I would not draw any conclusions before the two weeks have elapsed. In fact, it seems that, according to some of the reports, the thiamine effect can manifest itself fully even after two weeks. A period of at least two weeks will, among other things, also rule out the possibility of a placebo effect during the first few days. In other words, if you do improve shortly after taking the first pill, it could be self-suggestion (the placebo effect) and not as a result of the thiamine. So do take the pills for at least two weeks and then review the situation. But don't get your hopes up, as only 3 out of 10 people benefit substantially. Also read my FAQ and try the pro-thiamine diet, avoid caffeine etc during this period to improve your chances. I hope you are one of the lucky ones. Regards.Peter Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-54936665744888593912013-09-18T21:28:32.306+02:002013-09-18T21:28:32.306+02:00Today is my first day taken thiamine
from slogar. ...Today is my first day taken thiamine<br />from slogar. I live in Egypt and imported from ebay online pharmacy at UK. I hope this will help me to overcome my stuttering. Inshallah I will update you with the results after 2 weeks. Am I expected to see a result from the next day or I should wait the 2 weeks to see the result.Muhammad Saminoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-87110344816363721152013-09-17T10:54:13.513+02:002013-09-17T10:54:13.513+02:00Hi Gopes, nice to hear from you again. I remember ...Hi Gopes, nice to hear from you again. I remember that you were one of the first persons on this blog to find that thiamine is helping you significantly. Regarding the calcium - you are right, Dr Schwartz did place a post in which he cautioned about calcium, but for some reason that post seems to have vanished from my blog. Dr Schwartz would be the best person to answer your question, but personally I think it would be best to try and remain with the Solgar. 8% doesn't seem to be much, but still if the Solgar is working for you I think you should try to get it again instead of other brands which may not be as pure and may have all kinds of additives which we don't want for our particular purpose. The 8% calcium probably won't do harm, but try the new brand and see if it has the same effect as the Solgar. If your speech deteriorates it may be an indication that the new brand is not as effective as the Solgar. Peter Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-70021028185226616392013-09-16T16:57:44.771+02:002013-09-16T16:57:44.771+02:00I am been taking Thiamine for about 2 years now fr...I am been taking Thiamine for about 2 years now from Solgar. Today, I purchased Thiamine HCL from a local store and the label reads, Thiamin as Thiamin HCL 500mg ( 33333%), and Calcium as dicalcium phosphate 75 mg (8 %). I can recall from the previous thread that the Calcium could have negative impact on Thiamine absorption. Could you please confirm if it is still "OK" to take this supplement having Calcium trace( 8%) in it?Gopes Niraulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149283487273263243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-64882366112466718572013-09-14T13:56:36.936+02:002013-09-14T13:56:36.936+02:00I don't think it is correct to say that stutte...I don't think it is correct to say that stuttering is caused by inhaling while speaking. This is a myth, but like many myths it could be based on a few grains of truth. It is true that the breathing patterns of many stutterers are abnormal. But that's just part of the typical struggle behaviours exhibited by stutterers when trying to cope with their tension-sensitive vocal cords that "lock" or "freeze" when under stress. The problem fundamentally lies with the vocal cords, not with abnormal breathing as such which is just a result of the vocal-cord lock. But it is true that good fluency techniques depend on correct breathing. I agree with you that speaking gently helps. It's also called "low energy speech" or "soft contacts". The more gently, slower and softer you speak, the less tension on the vocal cords. Personally I also believe that our focus should be on breathing-out (exhaling), but a particular form of exhaling while speaking called the Passive Airflow Technique; and also there should be a focus on reducing vocal-cord tension (through the Passive Airflow Technique) as well as reducing general tension (stress), in all its many forms.Peter Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-14007346200362989132013-09-13T23:08:33.904+02:002013-09-13T23:08:33.904+02:00Off topic question here but important
but is it tr...Off topic question here but important<br />but is it true that all stutterers stutter simply cuz they inhale,and non stutterers exhale as they speak?<br />I tried speaking gently(first i started on a book with 100% success) as i start speaking and my blocks are reduced and i notice i exhale thru my stomach.And when i don't talk gently i have bad blocks and i also feel like im sucking in air.Or my chest getting tighter.<br />Again sorry for the off topic questionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-37572237734591023492013-09-04T11:41:20.576+02:002013-09-04T11:41:20.576+02:00Dear Anonymous, whether you need to take thiamine ...Dear Anonymous, whether you need to take thiamine with B Complex to avoid general B deficiency would depend on your state of health and whether your doctor has found that you have any such deficiency as per a blood test. If you don't have such a deficiency and would still like to experiment with thiamine to improve fluency, note that Dr Schwartz is not in favour of B Complex, as some of the other forms of vitamin B apparently could work against what we are trying to achieve. Regarding your second question on the professor who cured his stuttering after taking B Complex: Firstly, we have to define "cure". If it is true that the professor became fluent, the question arises to what extent - for instance, under great, extraordinary conditions of stress he might again stutter. However, let's assume that he has become fluent for all practical purposes. Cures such as these do happen, though few and far between, and usually it's a result of drastically reduced stress levels. The anti-stress components within B Complex may have reduced this professor's "baseline tension" to such an extent that his speech tension no longer reaches his stuttering threshold. Dr Schwartz has explained these concepts in his excellent book You Can Stop Stuttering. But not everybody reacts so well to B Complex, otherwise stuttering would not be such a problem! Peter Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-18556029714093475552013-09-02T22:33:07.110+02:002013-09-02T22:33:07.110+02:00If you search "b complex for stuttering"...If you search "b complex for stuttering" on the web you will see in one of the results pages that a professor cured his 'blocks' type stuttering which i myself suffer from!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-31214859579445663402013-09-02T22:28:15.029+02:002013-09-02T22:28:15.029+02:00Do i need to take thiamine with a daily b complex ...Do i need to take thiamine with a daily b complex to avoid b deficiency in other b vitamins? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-39411869055716660992013-08-31T14:52:56.241+02:002013-08-31T14:52:56.241+02:00Unfortunately it seems that you have had a placebo...Unfortunately it seems that you have had a placebo reaction. In other words, your mind may have tricked you. Temporary placebo reactions are very common. What happens is that when somebody believes that a treatment may work, that belief can become a temporary self-fulfilling prophecy. Your base-level tension probably decreased as a result of the new hope and positive expectation, and your fluency improved - because stress and stuttering are to a large extent linked. Placebo reactions regrettably are usually temporary, so after a while your base-level tension rose again to its usual levels, and you began to stutter again. So it may be that unfortunately you are not one of the lucky ones who benefit from thiamine, though it could also be that other factors have prevented your body from absorbing sufficient thiamine. For instance, the thiamine trial needs to be accompanied by a pro-thiamine diet - you can check my thiamine FAQ on this blog for more details. Maybe just check that FAQ to ensure that you haven't missed anything. If not, it seems that unfortunately thiamine doesn't work for you. Peter Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-82197412290535224052013-08-31T12:46:52.272+02:002013-08-31T12:46:52.272+02:00Hello,
I have been using thiamine now for more th...Hello,<br /><br />I have been using thiamine now for more than a month. For me it only helped a lot in the first three days, but after that it looked like the effect just vanished while taking the same amount of thiamine. How can this be? <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-64066735817562622572013-08-23T02:34:16.053+02:002013-08-23T02:34:16.053+02:00Thiamin HCL makes me a little depressed, hungry an...Thiamin HCL makes me a little depressed, hungry and stutter more.<br />But I found I can take thiamin mononitrate without any problems.<br />Taking it and magnesium has reduced<br />my blocks by about 75% perhaps more. I just don't think about my stuttering nearly as much now. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-35364845293456323262013-08-15T17:23:44.015+02:002013-08-15T17:23:44.015+02:00Some anecdotal reports indicate that if one goes o...Some anecdotal reports indicate that if one goes on an alkaline diet, one may discover enhanced fluency. We also know, from some studies, that supplement absorption is enhanced with an alkaline diet. To go on such a diet, Google 'alkaline foods' and choose from the alkaline or high alkaline list. If the diet is going to be useful, you should see effects within one to two weeks.Martin Schwartznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-10338823050731915682013-08-11T09:11:33.839+02:002013-08-11T09:11:33.839+02:00The basic rule with supplements is that if there a...The basic rule with supplements is that if there are negative side effects, you should discontinue immediately. Not everybody responds in the same way to supplements and medicines. So discontinue and see what happens. The sexual problem may not be related to thiamine but to something else, so if the problem occurs again you will know that it is not caused by thiamine.Peter Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762124725640299873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3702669429782703593.post-44943795910574539532013-08-11T03:22:21.264+02:002013-08-11T03:22:21.264+02:00I used thiamine hcl for one month before negative...I used thiamine hcl for one month before negative sexual side effect.what I do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com